How Should We Answer the Oba Oriates on Their Manifesto Statement and Accord?

Mon, Jun 14, 2010

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How Should We Answer the Oba Oriates on Their Manifesto Statement and Accord?

Ela Moyin Aboru, Moyin Aboye, Moyin Abosise

The Accord of Oba Oriatés of South Florida Ratified will more than likely have many people in the Diaspora up in arms and in disagreement; for many statements said in this manifesto violate the tenets of Ifa and Orisa.

Whether those tenets are quoted through the vehicle of Lucumi or Yoruba Traditional spiritual authority of Odu Ifa and Erindinlogun; it is critical for those of us who are reading or involved in this process of defining our relationship to this religion, have clarity of what is being written, spoken and more made law by those who may seem to have religious and doctrine authority. This authority is said to have impact worldwide by their position as Oba Oriaté in the Southern region of Florida and respected in Cuba.

For example, beginning with the statements within the Oriatés ‘Accord’, it started by introducing themselves, capitalizing Lucumi and under emphasizing the Yoruba tradition by calling their position in the religion as “so-called”.

This is statement is located in the second paragraph:” The council convened to analyze and debate the recent incidents that have occurred with practitioners of the so-called Traditional Yoruba Religion residing in the South Florida region, and the conflicts and discrepancies in theology and ritual practice that have arisen between both religious systems.”

There many people in agreement with this ‘accord’ for it will appeal to those who are in agreement with non spiritual, theologically inappropriate, egregious and above all racist overtones that are apparent in this. You see there is no mention of any Orisa that have sanctioned this action or manifesto. The Oriaté’s have spoken for the Orisa by declaring that everyone who chooses to find how to serve the Orisa by going to the land where the Orisa were born, lived, and still are. The words may be cloak in pretty covers of technical wording. But the truth is essentially, when people, those people receiving or have received spiritual initiations through Lucumi practitioner; in order to fulfill their destinies and commitment to Olodumare and Orisa; 1. Those people who have made their spiritual commitments to Ifa and Orisa through one system; and 2. Then told that now since they have chosen to go to a system of their religions cultural and ethnic origin, not because the deities have spoken but because men have spoken their opinion-then you must ask what is the true motivation behind this small minded act that defies the Gods themselves. Now these elders in Lucumi tradition tell you there are discrepancies in theology but do not give you what those discrepancies are. They are not investigating the traditional origins of Ifa and Orisa to look at the difference which may be due to years of creolization of the tradition both by language, rites, ethnic blending both in ethnic groupings (remember there were many different captives coming from different part of the African continent bringing their own regional ways of worship) miscegenation word coined in 1863 to distinguish between the captives and slave holders for contrived and fake morality and forced relationship (rapes) developed in order to create a consciousness of mind to soothe the wrong being done then as it is now.

Of course the Constitution of the United States gives those citizens born and arrived by legalities to practice their religious rites with impunity as long as that religion does not violate the laws of this country. However, it is has been imperious and overbearing and certainly laying a foundation of divisiveness and spiritual pain by instilling the type of fear amongst those people who want to learn more of the heritage, rituals, and rites of Orisa and Ifa by uneven handed placing this immoral code of ethics on the very people they are suppose to help spiritually. This is about racism and money no more no less hid cleverly behind a façade of legal language design to keep us all ignorant and unaware of the truth. It is imperialistic at best and at its worst it smacks of the foul intention of permissiveness and sanctimonious behavior that priest should not do to others in this tradition.

The Lukumí Oba Oriatés as well as all priest and devotees were invited to speak with us in May, 2010.

The culture and religious tradition of the Yoruba is more than 12,000 years old uninterrupted heritage, for the very religion the Lukumi’ practice and comes from; is the same religion that is still practiced in Nigeria and its neighboring countries that still worship Ifa and Orisa.
Of the silly arguments that have been giggled behind backs or racist insults made to some devotees faces in order to whipped into submission; because they dared to want to dress in the clothing of their ancestors, or do rites that tap into the forces of the ancestry of both Lukumi and African Diaspora alike. You would think that these Oba Oriatés would be gracious and applaud their spiritual efforts to find their way to the Source of this religion; instead, we are in the process of court procedures and more because of their fear and racist stupidity. And please do not let me leave out those Africans born in America who instead of seeing the racism behind those negative and evil procedures have turned their cheeks, behinds, lowered their heads in shame of who they really are rather than stand up and study your history Yoruba Anago people and worship in the ways of your ancestors. Yes, it is true that the Lukumi practitioners have worked very hard to maintain this religion here both in Cuba and other African Diaspora countries including the United States but do not ever believe that there were not individuals who were African born here that did not go to great length to discover their traditional roots in the same five hundred year period. Nor other African Americans, African Latina, African Diaspora people who made great sacrifices to maintain this religion and died for it long before Rici Ricardo came to these shore sing Babalu. It is not my intent to slander however, it is my intent to drive home the point of what this manifesto feels like to me and other who work hard to bring this tradition to all and bridge our understanding of Orisa and Ifa worship. Your sling shot methodologies The Wikipedia source materials below is here to give others some idea about where this traditions source is and who are the people who make this religious tradition up. It should be understood that Wikipedia is a source but there are better materials in the libraries and in books stores for those who are willing to investigate.

These elders of the Lukumi community of Southern Florida are counting on your ignorance of the rules, laws both theologically, ethically, and will use these tactics to fuel your ignorance. Think first, Pray, and remember even Ifa and Orisa are no substitute for Ori-using your head.
These Yoruba people who have practice this religion for centuries longer than that of Lukumi practitioners have faces, souls, emotions and more; they are human and this document minimizes them and you all for it tells you that the priest that have signed this document know better than you on how to serve our Orisa. I could easily say that I and we of the traditional Yoruba Ifa and Orisa worshipers do not need to practice in the igbodu of the Lukumi-Anago priesthood in Miami or any other place in the world but that is giving TIC for TAC and I personally am above this childish and asinine mindset and behavior. What I also want you to remember that I feel like cussing them all out royally for this is suicide move, for their religion and for what they think is a cleaver way around the truth of their real intent, which is their fear about their financial investment in this religion and their racist intention for they have forgotten who they come from historically. Did I not mention miscegenation? But I am truly trying not too but it is close today for in fact they should give their Souls to Olodumare, for the evil they are doing in the name of Orisa their A–belongs us.

What I implore everyone both Traditional Yoruba practitioners and Lukumi practitioners to do is to read, study, for yourselves and do not be led like a dog to water that is putrid and filled with impurities. Study, learn, pray, ask for guidance and above all go to Ifa, Ori, and your Orisa and find out what the Orisa want you to do.

We are living the culture of the Yoruba:

Total population
Over 30 million (est.)[1]

Regions with significant populations
Nigeria 29,039,480 [2]
Benin 1,009,207+ [3]
Ghana 350,000 [4]
Togo 85,000 [5]
Canada 3,315+ (2006) [6][7]
United States
United Kingdom
Cuba as Lucumi
Brazil as Candomblé Ketu
Latin America

Yoruba, Yoruboid languages

Christianity 60%, Islam 30%, Orisha veneration and Ifá 10%.
Related ethnic groups
Bini, Nupe, Igala, Itsekiri, Ebira,
Diaspora: Lucumi, Candomblé Ketu

Yoruba people (Yorùbá in Yoruba orthography) are one of the largest ethno-linguistic or ethnic groups in west Africa.[8] The majority of the Yoruba speak the Yoruba language (Yoruba: èdèe Yorùbá; èdè). The Yoruba constitute around 30 million individuals throughout West Africa [9] and are found predominantly in Nigeria with approximately 21 percent of its total population.[10]

Yoruban settlements are often described as primarily one or more of the main social groupings called “generations”:

  • The “first generation” includes towns and cities known as original capitals of founding Yoruba states/kingdoms.
  • The “second generation” refers to settlements created by Diaspora conquest and/or unforced resettlement.
  • The “third generation” consists of villages and municipalities that emerged following the Yoruba wars.

The Yoruba share borders with the Borgu (variously called “Bariba” and “Borgawa”) in the northwest, the Nupe (whom they often call “Tapa”) and Ebira in the north, the Edo, the Ẹsan and Afemai to the southeast. The Igala and other related groups are found in the northeast, and the Egun, Fon, and other Gbe-speaking peoples in the southwest. While the majority of the Yoruba live in western Nigeria, there are also substantial indigenous Yoruba communities in the Republic of Benin, Cuba, Brazil, Haiti, USA, the United Kingdom, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Jamaica, Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Dominica,Panama,Grenada, Puerto Rico, Ghana and Togo.[11]

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4 Comments For This Post

  1. omisaide7 Says:

    We know in this case the chicken came before the egg. What’s really going? They have lost all respect here. Let the Babaluwos,Oluwos, The Araba deal with this matter. Oriates are secondary.

  2. Iyabode Says:

    It is the job of the Araba and the Awise Agbaye to handle these kinds of disputes, but the Cuban Lukumi for the most part, don’t see them as the authority for our tradition.

    The time has come for us to think about who we can turn to here in America. Who is the representative for us here on American soil?

    This issue should not have gone so long un-resolved, starting with the snail issue. The “re-ordination” issue has also gone un-resolved.

    There are three sides to a story, his, his and the truth. The Orisas deal in truth…let them decide.

  3. awo dino Says:

    aboru aboye
    In all humility, I don’t think anyone should answer. This accord has no authority behind it. Pope Pichardo and his lackeys speak for their respective Iles and no one else. To respond would be to legitimize these scoundrels as if they have some authority.


  4. Oluwo Ogunbayo Ayangbadun Aloyinlapa Says:

    Oluwo Ogunbayo’s discusses the document circulated by the Oba Oriates of South Florida. Here’s the link

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